Alpha Roll over?

I just want to know if anyone else as ever done an alpha roll over, and if so if they have ever had any bad experiences. I have done it a few times with dogs I had rescued that had dominates issues, and have had great success, but it is always a last resort. Any tales?
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An Alpha Roll only works if you are Alpha. If the dog truly thinks it is alpha you could get bitten badly. Timing is also crucial or you can make a dog much worse.

Very few people should use an alpha roll.

I tend to tell people to use : Nothing In Life is Free to assert their dominance and teach the dog it's place.

Alpha rolls should always be a last resort.they are a strong statement and you better be able to back it up.

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This can of course back fire badly. Doing an alpha roll can result in the dog esculating the experience to a higher level and you or the dog becoming hurt. That being said, my mother used alpha rolls on her mastifs and seemed to have good results with them. I personally dont see much of a need for them. I think there are other more effective ways to train a dog.

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Ive read about but never tried it. I just don't see where it would work as well as other methods of consistent training.

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I really don't know if the alpha roll over works. I read an excerpt from Tamar Geller's book (The loved dog : the playful, nonaggressive way to teach your dog good behavior) and it makes a lot of sense to me. In her book she talks about the alpha roll over and how a lot of people like to use it because it shows a dog who is dominant by putting him in a submissive position and you in a dominant position, and this logic comes from the fact that this is a behavior seen in wolf packs. However, the big difference is that we, as people, are forcing a dog into the submissive position, whereas wolves will scrap and duke it out before the submissive wolf willingly goes into the belly-up position on his own. The dominant wolf does not grab him and turn him up on his back. I think this is an important distinction.

That is not to say that it can't work. For example, I have seen Cesar Millan put his dogs in the submissive belly-up position when they begin to display unwanted aggression with a simple hand gesture or vocal gesture.

I think it's a risky thing to try on your own if you have no experience dealing with dominant dogs. You never know when a very dominant dog may feel threatened by your behavior (forcing the alpha roll) and really lash out against you.